FACTS ABOUT VIETNAM THAT YOU MAY NOT KNOW

 

Three million people served in Vietnam. Contrary to popular theory, approximately two-thirds of these men were volunteers, not draftees. Seven out of the 10 men killed in action were volunteers for military service, not draftees, and the total number of 18-year-old draftees killed (101), was less than one- tenth of one-percent of the total killed.

For those of you who think that this war was just some “dirty little war” fought largely by 760-pound bombs deployed from B-52 aircraft, you should realize that the Hanoi government recently admitted that 1.4 million of their soldiers died on the battlefield, compared to 58,178 U.S. dead. For the U.S. Marine Corps, it was the most costly war ever fought in our proud history with five times as many dead than in World War I, three times as many dead than in Korea, and more total killed and wounded than in all of World War II with 14,387 casualties.

Although the Marines made up only about 10 percent of the fighting forces in Vietnam, virtually one in four names on the Vietnam Wall Memorial is that of a U.S. Marine. Think about that fact.

And to answer the many queries I get around the internet, no, I am not a Vietnam vet. Rather, I am a Vietnam-era vet. I was the only Marine in my platoon who could get a security clearance. Can you believe that? Holy shit! As such, I was the lucky recipient of being awarded three tours of duty at Headquarters, U.S. Marine Corps in Arlington, Virginia. Oh well, somebody had to do it, right?

I have been to The Wall in Washington and looked up the other 65 members my Platoon 1022, Company C, First Battalion, Marine Corps Recruit Depot, San Diego, California which graduated on 16 April 1970. There are five Marines of that platoon whose names are inscribed thereon. Rest in peace, brothers! For more facts about Vietnam click here.

In addition, a high school classmate and friend of mine was killed in Vietnam:

EUGENE MARSHALL FRICKE

SP4-E4 - U.S. Army - Selective Service, 5th Infantry Division Mechanized, 21-year-old. Single, Caucasian, Male, Born on March 23, 1950, From Sheboygan, Wisconsin. His tour of duty began on August 30, 1970. Casualty was on May 6th, 1971 in Quang Tri, South Vietnam. Hostile, died of wounds. Ground Casualty. Other explosive device. Body was recovered. Panel 03W - - Line 24.

Rest in peace, Gene!

 

For pictures of “The Other Wall,” a memorial to the men and women of the Beirut Barracks Bombing, click here.

 

WEDNESDAY, MARCH 27th, 2002

 

There was an anniversary, yesterday, on the Mall in Washington, DC. There was a ceremony marking the 20th anniversary of the day when a group of veterans each turned over one shovelful of earth to begin the process of building the Vietnam Veterans Memorial.

Now, 20 years on, we simply call it, "The Wall."

The Wall was finished eight months later and, sometime in early November of this year, there will be a much larger, much more heralded anniversary marking the official dedication of The Wall.

But on this day, in the cold and drizzle of late March in Washington, about 100 people turned out to lay 20 wreaths - one for each year - which carried the names of state veterans organizations, military units, and a few businesses at The Wall.

Jan Scruggs - the Vietnam vet who started the movement for a Memorial to men and women who fought in a war not very many people liked - was the master of ceremonies. A quarter of a century ago, Scruggs took $2,800 of his own money and headed up to Capitol Hill.

A memorial to soldiers killed in the Vietnam War, was not the most popular idea ever to come before Congress back in those days, but two Senators: Mac Mathias of Maryland and John Warner of Virginia got three acres down near the Lincoln Memorial designated for a memorial which has become: The Wall.

One of the people bundled up against the chill and damp yesterday was a man named Brian Thacker. To look at Thacker you think: Government Accountant. But he is a very tough guy.

Brian Thacker received a Medal of Honor for his actions in that war. He was a first lieutenant commanding a forward observation unit which, in 1971, came under heavy attack. Here is the concluding part of the official citation:

By late afternoon, the situation had become untenable. 1stLt Thacker organized and directed the withdrawal of the remaining friendly forces. With complete disregard for his personal safety, he remained inside the perimeter alone to provide covering fire with his M-16 rifle until all other friendly forces had escaped from the besieged fire base.

Then, in an act of supreme courage, he called for friendly artillery fire on his own position to allow his comrades more time to withdraw safely from the area and, at the same time, inflict even greater casualties on the enemy forces. Although wounded and unable to escape from the area himself, he successfully eluded the enemy forces for 8 days until friendly forces regained control of the fire base.

He told me that The Wall has come to mean something special in its 20 years. Thacker said: "This was built to be a Wall that heals. But it has become," he said looking at the parents and their kids in Washington for spring break making their way slowly down the pathway, "A Wall that educates."

An award for war reporting was given to Alex Perry who is in Afghanistan writing for Time Magazine. He gave the eyewitness accounts of the Taliban revolt at the prison in Qala-i-Jangi late last year.

In his written acceptance Perry said he was grateful for having the opportunity to help his readers understand "what foreign policy means at the sharp end." Pretty good line.

That award is named for Joe Galloway who was there, in the mist. As a reporter for United Press International, he covered the war no one much liked for four tours. He, as a civilian, received a Bronze Star with V for valor for risking his life trying to save a gravely wounded soldier.

He co-authored a book, We Were Soldiers Once, which is now, as they say, a major motion picture starring Mel Gibson.

As anniversaries go, this being divisible by ten, was okay. As Washington events go, it wasn't one of the big ones. As wars go, Vietnam wasn't one of the good ones.

But as for the people who went to Vietnam to fight there, to report there, to nurse there, or to doctor there, they were, as they always have been - and as they remain today - the best America has.

Author Unknown

 

A POEM BY ROGER HEARD

 
Upon this honored wall of stone,
You're together again and not alone
Together you laughed, together you cried,
Together you fought, together you died

Together you stand in history,
Upon this wall for all to see

Each name evokes a young man's face,
A warrior that stood to take his place

To fight and die for liberty,
So others could live a life that's free

If there's a place where heroes stand,
Surely you've gone to join their band

You've left the horrors of war behind,
And crossed death's bridge to hopefully find

The peace denied you in this life,
Of endless wars and constant strife

Together you walk with head held high,
No storm clouds gather to darken your sky

The black man, red man, brown and white,
Will walk as one, no more to fight

You are not forgotten and will never be,
This stone bears witness for all to see

Each one of you made the sacrifice,
And paid with life, the ultimate price

Each one that died left a few of us here,
To show the world with a fallen tear

We'll never forget and always stand true,
To the memory of each one of you

As long as there's life within my breast,
I'll take my place and stand with the rest

And when it's my time to leave this land,
I hope you'll welcome me to your hero's band.

Roger Heard Sgt USMC 1966-70
 

A LETTER FROM AMERICA

 

Dear Vietnam Veteran,

I know I should have written much sooner.

I can't say why I did not. Out of fear of admitting to myself, you were there, fighting a war. Or maybe ashamed. Ashamed that I never accepted the things you felt you had to do.

Whatever it is, I know how it must hurt. Believe me when I say it hurts me more. I have the burden of your hurt plus that of my own. The pain of not being able to show my true feeling towards you.

I am not writing this for the months you served in Vietnam, but for the many years, you were left alone with only your brother Veterans. You served proudly and it went unmentioned.

For a long time, I've wanted to express the words. The words an honorable Veteran needs to hear. For a long time, I've wanted to hold you during your times of pain.

God knows I wanted to. And only He knows why I never found the courage. I do not remember what I use to say; maybe I do not want to remember.

All I know is I hope that it is not too late to give you those things now.

For years you tried to be part of my world. Doing everything to please me, just to be noticed and given a little time and understanding...

I look back and see the demands I placed on your shoulders when you were young. "Fight your weakness, and always show strength to others around you."

Who was I to make such a demand? I sit here with tears in my heart; finally admitting to myself the one weakness you must have seen in me and never questioned. My inability to say the words that I know would have meant so much to you.

"Welcome Home." You served your country honorably.

Please hear these words now, from my heart. Please give me a chance to be part of your world now. The world I should have been part of long ago.

Love,
America

 

TO BE A MARINE

 

Some people think we came from hell, other think we should all go there. Then there are the wise ones who are glad we are around.

So what does it take to be a Marine? I admit, you have to be a bit foolish, a little daring, somewhat adventurous, looking for a challenge and according to most parents - crazy. Why? Because we are special. We train differently, we act differently, we think like no others, we take chances where others never would, we do more with less, we are overflowing with pride.

We wear our uniform with pride, we hold our heads up high with pride and our families are proud of us. Our country respects us, there are those who are not fond of us and the enemy fear us. So, unless you've been a Marine, no one really understands us or what it takes to be a Marine. We are damn proud to be called "Marine."

You can find a former Marine in all walks of life. People say we're dummies, stupid, crazy, obnoxious, animals. They just don't know. I have met former Marines who are lawyers, doctor, artists, police captains, business owners and just about any profession you can imagine. And every former Marine I have met is just as proud now as when they were in the Corps.

Our ways in life and in combat are unconventional, unlike others, daring foolish or rude at times, impetuous, usually tough but always successful. We have been called, "America's 911." We know how to "take it" and we know how to "dish it out." We have gone through boot camp or OCS and became sensitive, caring and loving. Sensitive to what people say about us, caring for our fellow Marine and loving our Corps and country.

The men and women of the Marine Corps are highly motivated and held in high esteem by those who love us, hate us and fear us. We have an ego the size of Texas and a history to back it up. No one can ever take that away from us because we have earned it. When you join the Marine Corps, it's because you want to be a Marine. I know.

Over the past century, we have been looked down upon, insulted, spat on, rejected, degraded, used, abused, exploited and taken advantage of. We love it! We can take it; that's what makes us a Marine. This special treatment.

We are respected and admired by other countries yet not in some social circles in our country. That is just fine because we shall be here, prepared to fight when our country needs us again. And we ask for nothing. That's what it takes to be a Marine.

Gen. George S. Patton could not have said it any better when he said, "The highest obligation and privilege of citizenship it that of bearing arms for one's country."

If it weren't for these crazy, foolhardy, vulgar, wild, gutsy, braggarts who joined the Marine Corps, we would not have a country, a free country. A free country that allows others to call us names. We have protected this country and died for you.

Thank you for that honor.

By Martin E. Shapiro-RVN 1965/66, 1st Bn., 9th Marines

 

LOOKING BACK

 

On March 29, 1973, the last combat troops officially withdrew from the Republic of Vietnam, leaving behind Marines to guard American installations and civilian advisors.

Two years later, on April 29, 1975, two U.S. Marines died in an attack on Tan Son Nhut air base only hours before the final U.S. presence in the Southeast Asian country lifted off from the embassy roof and left the country, ending years of American involvement in conflict and bloodshed. Those two Marines were the last Americans to die in the Vietnam War.

Looking back from the vantage point of nearly three decades, it’s difficult now to believe that so many young men were sacrificed. There were no lost rights restored, no liberty gained.

The numbers themselves are horrifying: Three million Americans served in Vietnam and, of those, 58,000 died, another 1,000 listed as missing and more than 150,000 seriously wounded. Most of those who died were young men straight out of high school — kids who hadn’t the time or the direction to nail down a future. Instead of getting jobs or going to college, meeting the right girl, settling down and having a family, these young men ended up carving their way through steaming jungles, fighting a war that wasn’t theirs to win.

The Vietnam War became the main argument for change in the way America goes to war. No longer would the American public simply accept the word of politicians and generals that our presence in a war zone or conflict was of the essence. Instead, they would question every deployment, dissect every move and remain skeptical of U.S. troop commitment overseas.

Onslow County is home to many Vietnam veterans — men and women who answered their country’s call and served honorably, even though their country failed them.

It is also home to families who lost someone in that conflict, like Ted and June Cobun who lost their son, also named Ted, at the age of 20. They’re not alone. There are others in Onslow County who lost brothers and fathers, sons and daughters in a conflict that made little sense at the time and even less sense when glimpsed in the rear-view mirror of history.

Today, there is little to justify what took place in Southeast Asia, and nothing that can bring back the loved ones sacrificed nor restore those wounded both physically and emotionally. But this is one community that treasures the men and women who served there and honors their valor and dedication.

Their sacrifices and those of their families are no different than those of any other soldier, sailor, airman or Marine from any of America’s other wars, and they deserve the nation’s respect and gratitude for what they gave.

The Jacksonville Daily News
April 28, 2002

 

MEMORIAL GROUPS MAKES PROGRESS

 

A ceremony next week will mark a major step in the effort to build a memorial to honor Vietnam veterans.

Onslow County officials are expected to present a check for $100,000 to the Onslow Vietnam Veterans Memorial Wall Foundation in a noon ceremony Tuesday at the memorial site near the entrance to Camp Johnson.

The money comes from the county’s occupancy tax revenues, an expenditure that the Board of Commissioners officially approved last month.

“I think it will be of interest to an era of Marines that have received very little recognition,” said Onslow County Manager Ron Lewis.

The money will bring the foundation two-thirds of the way toward the estimated $300,000 needed to begin phase one, which includes clearing, grading and seeding the site, as well as construction of a lakeside retaining wall and walkway to the neighboring Beirut Memorial.

An artist’s conception, released in spring 2001, depicts the 58,216 names of the dead and missing from the Vietnam War inscribed in tempered glass illuminated from a granite base.

The task of raising money for the project is in its third year. In February, there was $60,000 in the pot when planners unveiled a 9-square-foot model at the United Services Organization office on Tallman Street.

To date, volunteers have gathered $100,000 in pledges and donations, said memorial foundation board member Clinton Williams.

“They have put in a lot of hard work in their efforts, such as selling raffle tickets and other fund-raisers,” said Onslow County Commissioner Jack Bright.

Because the $100,000 provided by the county was budgeted by project organizers and they had completed a financial audit of their books in 2001, the expenditure was unanimously approved by commissioners at their regular meeting Aug. 19, Bright said.

Organizers still need another $100,000 in donations before they can to break ground, which is planned early next year.

“After phase one, it will be a fully functioning memorial,” said foundation president Larry Fitzpatrick. “We’ll just need to add more as we go along.”

The Onslow Vietnam Veterans Memorial Wall Foundation said this week that the secretary of the Navy has approved the proposed structure and landscaping plans.

Phase two of construction would include establishment of a granite walk, a glass memorial with granite base and the first landscape upgrade.

Two bridges to walk around the lake and a walkway with more landscaping upgrades would be installed during phase three.

Phase four focuses on the pageantry of the site, with seals and flags of the various armed forces.

Phase five includes a visitors center with restroom facilities that also can be used by Beirut Memorial visitors.

Architects say the project could be completed within the next three years at an estimated cost of $3 million.

“Right now, there are architects and surveyors checking for proper water drainage,” Williams said. “We have submitted to the state for two required permits and anticipate approval in two or three months.”

 

THE TIME HAS COME FOR A VIETNAM MEMORIAL

The Liberty News
Jacksonville, NC
Sept. 18, 2002

In the 1960s and early 1970s, thousands of U.S. Marines were sent to fight in Vietnam.

For every 100 that left, 14 were either killed or wounded. That’s 13,067 Marines killed in action and 88,600 wounded. Camp Lejeune was home to many of them before they deployed, yet what is there in Onslow County to remember that sacrifice?

Nothing. At least not yet. During the Vietnam War over 788,000 Americans who wore the Eagle, Globe and Anchor, and over half of them were sent to Southeast Asia. There were almost as many Marines killed in that war as there were in all of World War II. That makes it a significant chapter in the Marine Corps history book. But here in Jacksonville it was largely ignored. And Vietnam vets weren’t alone. If you look around there aren’t significant memorials out there for World War II or Korean War vets.

Thankfully that too may change. The recent approval of plans for a Vietnam memorial in On- slow County will pave the way for others. That’s something Pat Walker hopes will happen. The 24-acre tract they have will be large enough to host lasting tributes to World War II, Korea, Desert Storm, and God forbid, any other war that results in significant U.S. casualties. It won’t take place overnight, but the first steps have been taken. Now it’s just an issue of people picking up the ball and going the next step.

Walker and a small core of volunteers picked up the ball to get where we are today. They rallied the support and did the grunt work to get property set aside and got approval from the Pentagon. And people stepped up too. Some pledged their money. Some in the construction business pledged their time and equipment. Some just offered moral support.

As a result a Vietnam memorial will be located next to an existing memorial for those killed in the terrorism attack on the barracks in Beirut.

What’s better still is there is room to expand. There are plenty of reasons to support the Vietnam memorial. First it won’t be just for Marines. Sailors, airmen and soldiers died in Southeast Asia. But the sacrifice the Marines made can’t be overlooked. The percentage of Marines lost was far higher. The Army had 134,900 people killed or wounded, but it also had 4.3 million soldiers who served in Southeast Asia, far more than the Marines. The memorial will list all the U.S. dead, not just the Marines. The country has changed a lot since the 1960s and 1970s. The young Marines who fought and survived Vietnam are older and grayer now. The valor they showed hasn’t diminished. The construction of a Vietnam War memorial in Onslow County, coupled with a new Marine Corps Museum, will give something this area can look on with pride.

 

VIETNAM VETERANS OF AMERICAN CALLS ALL VETERANS TO JOIN MARCH IN NOVEMBER

Washington – Vietnam Veterans of America (VVA) will lead a Veterans Day march in Washington, D.C., November 11.

The March to Remember will commemorate the 20th anniversary of the dedication of the Vietnam Veterans Memorial.

“We invite all veterans to come to Washington on Veterans Day and march with us down Constitution Avenue toward The Wall,” said VVA national President Thomas H. Corey. “We will be joining together also to reaffirm VVA’s motto: ‘Never again will one generation of veterans abandon another.’”

Veterans are encouraged to join the VVA-sponsored March to Remember. Marchers will begin assembling at 8 a.m. at the assembly point, 7th Street, N.W., and Constitution Avenue, between Jefferson and Madison Drives, on the national Mall.

The march, which will be organized by states and units, will start from the 7th Street assembly point at 9 a.m.; continue along Constitution Avenue for ten blocks; and disperse at 17th Street where marchers can move alongside the Reflecting Pool and arrive at the Vietnam Veterans Memorial well in advance of the 1 p.m. ceremonies.

“We are very excited about this event,” Corey said. “We will have the opportunity to let the nation know of the sacrifices made by those who served and the many ways continue to be in service to America.”

Other Veterans Day events near The Wall include unit reunions, concerts and receptions.

VVA will sponsor information centers and a hospitality tent just off Constitution Avenue a couple of blocks from the Vietnam Veterans Memorial.

For more information, call (301) 585-4000 or visit www.vva.org/veterans_day2002

Vietnam’s ongoing echo



Few controversies have faded faster than the one over the design of the Vietnam Veterans Memorial in Washington, but while it lived it was nasty.

The V-shape was an iconic reference to the peace sign of the anti-war movement. Its color, black, connoted defeat and shame. It was sunk into the ground as if trying to bury the memory of the war dead. It wasn’t virile and heroic like the capital’s other war memorials. The designer was a 21-year-old college student of Asian descent and somehow that seemed wrong too.

That student, Maya Lin, designed what quickly became the capital’s most emotionally powerful memorial. A ceremony on Veterans Day, marked its 20th anniversary, and in that time 40 million visitors have followed the columns and columns of names — 58,229 — down its gently descending walkway.

Most of the capital’s monuments and memorials are imperiously sited so visitors can’t avoid them, but they must seek out the Vietnam Memorial. It is screened by trees and landscaped groves and is almost unnaturally quiet. School groups who only minutes before have been clowning on the steps of the nearby Lincoln Memorial suddenly turn orderly and respectful. If there are any number of people there — and the memorial never seems to be alone — some of them will be in tears. Lights have been added because so many come at night.

The memorial is almost loved too much. People feel compelled to touch the names, tracing over the letters with their fingers; many trace the names with pencil and paper; and they are encouraged to do so.

The Park Service regularly cleans and freshens the black granite and gathers up — and saves in a special warehouse — the remembrances left behind, bouquets, letters, medals, stuffed animals.

Twenty years later, the power of the Vietnam Memorial is not its site, the stone so shiny it eerily reflects its visitors, or the memories of that time, but the names, the names.